yeah, they do..

trees help the best, i've got one in my backyard set up.. i can do every handlepass on it. without it theres no way i would have learned slims. and landed it second try. that handle pass really doesn't require much strength, when you pass it there is no feel to the bar, you fall into it.

EDIT: thoes usf kids in the video are doing them how i first learned my front mobes, they arn't getting the rest of the front or backroll in and you can see the bar they have to flip it around when they land.. on mobes you pull yourself around instead of falling into it like that. i did it too my first times on the bar, and in the water. what helps me is i have the bar low enough so i can kick myself up and around like i'm poping off the water.

I guess I will keep trying. Thanks for the info, Josh.

Tom, they are more like out of control spins that I sometimes land.
Not pretty.

Props to you guyz who can do them. Gotta get it before I hit 40 :( No way in hell I am giving up. Planning to lose 45lbs to get me there. 12lbs are gone 33 to go. On the tree everyday until it happens.

F#CK YEAH! ok im there with ya Tom......im checking the rates to Russia now, they have the best in cutting edge sports medicine.....and i hear they sell steroid soaked fetus's in vending machines there....im feeling younger already!

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