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Old 09-24-2007, 09:45 AM
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Coming from a wakeboarding background I was very uncertain about not having my feet in bindings when I started kiteboarding.

I have taken some pretty hard falls from pretty high up and at much faster speeds than on a kiteboard and never had a problem.

I'm not opposed to riding with bindings as well. I think that its just a little harder to get back in them if you fall off. Not a bad thought though.

You might want to take a look at the LF Union binding.
but the difference is you can let go when wakeboarding....
try being stuck in binding when your kite goes into a death spiral....

im sure tom wouldnt have walked away from his EB accident if he had his feet stuck in binding, more then likely would have dislocated something.....

but everything has its risks.....
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
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Correct, everything has its risks and I don't know what happened with Tom and East Beach, but if you are riding in accordance to the agreed upon safety rules like riding 200 feet from the beach one might have more time to 1) get their feet out of bindings (I can do this rather quickly) 2) pull the releases on ones kite (This should not have much to do with ones feet)

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im sure tom wouldnt have walked away from his EB accident if he had his feet stuck in binding, more then likely would have dislocated something.....

but everything has its risks.....
Like I said, I don't know what happened and like you said everything does have its risks!
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:40 PM
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Sounds like this month is officially "Injury Awareness Month." I've been wearing a knee brace since Tuesday due to a kiting injury at Lassing. Brian just hurt his knee the other day as well....and now Chris. Man, I'm glad this month is almost over! lol
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:42 PM
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tom got worked .. dragged in from over 200 meters out i believe.. QR wouldnt release .. issues with the BEST 04 bar QR system..
basically he was at the mercy of a pummeling, looping kite when a squall hit the beach.. the nightmare-kitemare that we all fear.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:13 PM
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Yep... dragged about 100 yards into shore, lofted, and dragged (on stomach while kite looping) another 40 yards between the signs, trees, and moving cars (!) until hitting the mangroves at the back of EB.

Board was still 100 yards out in the water. I was standing (walking for my board) on a sandbar in waist deep water when it went crazy.

I don't think kicking my feet out of the bindings would have even had time to sink in though because it all happened so fast... but maybe if I were used to kicking them off. I've seen quite a few people dragged/lofted onto shore with bindings still on their feet. Then again I may have been able to hold the kite down if I'd had my board on my feet (maybe but maybe not) ... instead I was dragged like a rag doll.

BTW, this was 2+ years ago on an 18M C kite when it suddenly went from 13 to 35+, onshore winds... as Bleighty mentioned... stupid QR failure.

Lesson: Crash kite in water immediately (and repeatedly) when it goes ballistic and THEN release or unhook it.

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Old 09-24-2007, 01:20 PM
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That sounds like one hell of a kitemare. Glad Tom is ok!

How many of your guys carry line cutters???

I don't have one but plan on buying one very soon.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:38 PM
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How many of your guys carry line cutters???


Too slow...

that is not the type of circumstance where one would use one. what you need to do is quick release or eject kite not cut lines.

The time to cut lines is when tangled up in lines or kite lines caught on something like crab trap
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:49 PM
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Yeah no way you could reach a knife in time... it all happened in about 6 seconds.

Kill the power and crash it first .. your hands are already on the bar. Then release or unhook while it's not powered and you have some time to find the release.

If it tries to relaunch crash it again.

This will buy you a lot of time and make it clear to others you are in trouble and not just riding into shore to land.
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