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Old 10-10-2008, 10:47 AM
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Default No Kite Leash Leads To Serious Injury

We know kite leashes are important, it shouldn't be necessary to rehash that at this point for most of us. Years back we used to argue about this amazingly enough. Suicide leashes have a strong following, despite what the name implies. I don't know how common this is at other areas but around here I see guys heading out at times with their suicide leash coiled on the harness "Wonder Woman" style but not connected to anything. This means your kite is unleashed.

Unleashed kites can do some serious harm. I was told a story recently about just that sort of accident. Many of the details prior to the lofting were only seen by the victim whose observations appear below. Others saw events following the lofting.

Guys were out in a squall among numerous other squalls, first mistake but others followed. This was in Miami during Tropical Storm Fay shortly before the rider in Ft. Lauderdale was hurt. More about that at http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=7046 . A kiter was heading back offshore when he noticed a guy launched a jump in his direction. The outbound kiter stopped and brought his kite to the zenith to try to avoid hitting the guy jumping. The jumping kiter landed and was hit by a particularly strong squall gust. He may have been knocked over or simply had the bar ripped from his hands, he was unhooked and was wearing his leash "Wonder Woman" style. That is for looks only and not attached to anything. The guy sitting with his kite at the zenith about 30 ft. offshore suddenly had a second kite bar wrap his lines resulting in TWO looping out of control kites. He was lofted out of the water and about 40 to 60 ft. inland. He smashed hard on his side against the sand fracturing his C2 (hangman's fracture) and C3 vertabrae. The kiter managed to activate his primary QR at this point amazingly enough. He was still pulled by the looping kite so another kiter tried to hold him in place while a third guy ran up and opened his secondary quick release defusing the situation.

The helping kiteboarders DID A VERY IMPORTANT THING by working to keep the injured kiter immobile. This act likely saved the kiteboarder from serious paralysis perhaps for life. There have been other injured kiters who were not so lucky as to have people there to try to keep them immobile. He was very fortunate that his C2 fracture wasn't more severe. That is the vertabrae and related nerve network they try to break with a hang man's noose causing loss of life through asphyxia.



He has been in a Halo Vest (head restraint collar) for seven weeks and may need to have it on for 8 to 12 weeks total. You sleep, badly, sitting up with these things on. The kiteboarder has no medical insurance and has ripped through his savings, taken out cash advances to the maximum on his credit cards, had to sell his car and has been out of work for 7 weeks. The kiter shouldn't have been out in the squall but he didn't deserve to be taken out by someone else's kite and physically and financially messed up like this.

Another accident with similarities claimed the life of Silke Gorldt in 2002 at a Pro competition. That is a runaway kite with no leash. Also she had no Quick Release, few did in those days.

Lessons Learned:

1. Stay out of squalls, always.

2. Always use a well tested kite leash. By not using a kite leash you are putting yourself at risk most of all compelling you to hang on to your kite in extremes. Then there are all those potential victims downwind. If you see a "Wonder Woman" wannabe, talk with them tactfully and effectively, OK?

3. Never put others at risk with your jumps. Always allow a safe downwind buffer with jumps and riding in general.

4. Practice hitting your Quick Release physically and mentally regularly as seconds can count.

5. Wear reasonable safety gear.

6. If you kiterboard, have adequate medical insurance.

7. If you see someone with potential neck trauma try to keep them calm and immobile. More comments about this under "Head Injury" at: http://fksa.org/showthread.php?t=6998
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:48 PM
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It sounds to me like te rider who lost is kite is liable for the injuries to the other rider.
I hope he has good insurance (liability insurance)
It is unfortunate that the injured rider did not have health insurance. I'm sure there will be a lawsuit from this.
I HAVE BEEN PREACHING FOR YEARS THAT EVERY KITER MUST HAVE $1 MILLION IN LIABILITY.
It only costs about $400 yearly. How much was your last kite?

PS... If anyone is reckless (or even accidental) and injures me so that I cannot feed my family I promise you that I will sue for the maximum recoverable amount including punitive. Also, I expect to be sued if I do harm to others. That's why I have insurance.
The act of being a kiter, which can obviously be a dangerous sport, and NOT carrying liability insurance is negligent in itself.
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:09 PM
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Default Kiteboarding insurance?

Crazyjay, or anyone else out there,

Please post some details of suitable liability insurance. Will any-old home and garden liability insurance work or did you find something specific to kiteboarding?

Thanks!
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:30 PM
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Your homeowners policy should cover you up to $100,000. This may or may not be enough.
If you do not own a home you an still get a $1,000,000 umbrella policy throough your auto policy. THis policy covers you for all personal LIABILTY, not just kiteboarding.
Most companies require you to have $250/500 K limits and then you pay extra for the million $ policy. Mine is about $400 a year but well worth it. One slip and your kite goes into the highway and you could be financially ruined for life.
If you were driving, or kiting, and someone recklessly injured you with their kite..... would you sue?
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:48 AM
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Default According to SBC Kiteboard magazine, why should anyone wear leashes???

When I was looking through an SBC rag, I noticed many featured pictures of team and sponsored riders, who were riding leashless. When I wrote to SBC about this, belaboring all of the issues with leashes that all kiteboarders are aware of, SBC defended their pictures with comments like, "Ben Wilson is a very experienced rider...", "This photo shoot was done on an empty beach..." Bullshit...
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:06 PM
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spaceracer ,I agree with you , however some riders out their that have been riding for years have achieved a god status in their own eyes and some of the industry and media,s eyes, and whatever they do, seems to be justified one way or the other,wether the example they are setting is good or bad. My advise is do what you know is good for the sport , and forget about the other things. (*lead by example*) Most people will respect you for this , and remember to have a good time.

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Old 03-20-2009, 10:16 AM
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Thanks for the heads up! safety first, think before you act
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Old 03-21-2009, 06:56 PM
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I have been riding and teaching for many years and never came accross anyone not wearing a leash. If you think it will be ok.... It wont.... wear a leash and be safe. As far as Insurance, check out the IKO website and have alook at there insurance plans. Its priced at around $100 and is very comprehensive.

When you see shots in magazines of Pro's with no leash's this is generally when they are riding sliders for photo shoots etc in uncrowded spots. The reason for doing this is because if they fall on the upwind side of a slider and let go of there kite the leash would pull them straight into the rail and cause potential injuries.

Be Safe, Get Insured and enjoy our amazing sport
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