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Old 01-06-2009, 05:50 PM
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Prayforwind i think you need to pray for more kitting and less stress, what a rage...interesting
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:01 PM
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p.s. something to ponder.....you are responsible for what you do, you take risks, well we are all held responsible for what the result is, like it or not. This accident has been used a platform now to show how dangerous kiteboarding is and why you should not be alllowed to do it in places. So right , wrong or otherwise, being in that condtion in onshore, with huricane, you know the risk you are taking and chancing, so you have to deal with the results. NO one made the choice for him, no one wanted to see him hurt, but fact is he screwed up, the world saw it and some real bad interviews, so is better to let this go.....look defensive the media will eat you

look at this another way, what if that happened and the kiter hit someone else and hurt them or worse and the kiter wasnt hurt bad....how would the reaction be? It could have happened that way you know

just take responsiblity for what you do and think about the risk before you do it and be prepared to be responsible for yourself after
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:48 PM
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No matter how media savy a person is, the media can and will slant the interview to conform to what they want to say, not what you want to get across. AND, they have the tool of post-production editing. You can't win. The show they propose is meant to grab the audience with sensational footage. Do you think that the production staff really wants to hear your side of the story now that you've had a few months to think about it? Besides, I 'll re-iterate what another poster said. They're going to replay the video, with or without you.

So, IMO, just lay low. Live to kite a smarter day. Take one for the team.
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:12 PM
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Man, prayfawind, you really oughta calm down. Like I said in the original post I made-I'm being nice, and trying to be political. He asked for opinions. I gave my opinion that he shouldn't do the interview. I in no way commented on his kiting or the conditions he rode in. I commented on what has happened in his other interviews. They didn't end positively. Sorry that Kevin wanted a "senior member response", which I'm not. I've only been in the sport for a year. But, it doesnt take a senior kiter to know that the media will sway things the way they want, and that Kevin's interviews didn't portray us in a positive light.
I again say don't do the interview. Let someone like Rick who studies kiteboarding sagety do it. And prayfawind, there was no attack here, so calm down.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:17 PM
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kite free or die
do what you want kev
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:52 AM
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He IS the one being responsible and talking about it with the rest of us, because he really wants to make a positive difference.
Kevin wants to talk safety, access, and highlight the positive aspects of the kiting comunity. He's not trying to make a buck or posturing to be #1, his love of the sport is no different than anyone reading this.

We don't get bans because a news crew caught a kitemare, we get bans by sweeping shit under the rug year after year.

Has Kevin's accident caused a ban?
Nope.
Has the inaction by everyone in this business and the "2 cool for rules" mentality by the rest of us caused a ban?
Yep, every one of them....

Its kinda funny seeing some of these posts, when these voices were nowhere to be found in the WBF and elsewhere, when it came to discussing the real issues that cause bans.

What happened to supporting certified instruction, creating launch site guidelines, and improving retailer responsibility?
Suddenly, every unemployed kiter is qualified to teach kiteboarding?
Oops, my "shop" has a flat tire- gotta run!....
get my point?

Nice rant Pray for Wind, I hear ya! (I bet I could top ya though!)

Rock on Kevin K., glad you're back on the water!
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:08 AM
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i so disagree with you.....cant even explain, but i repect others opions and all i ask is respect mine.

I have had 2 off the side conversaions with our city here , when they asked if i think it will happen here and they really dont want this kind of stuff giving them a problem. Others are hearing this stuff as well, was questioned about it in ecuador after it happened when i was there by there tourist council who is looking at prometing the sport. Trust me, news spins what they want, "i dont want to represent the sport" but i dont think kevin should either as stories have changed and they are looking for drama.

Steve, if it makes a problem at your beach because it gives them a leg to stand on, i will wait to see your email.

Egos aside, this is more about the sport, not about kevin.....he is just a pawn being used to get a good drama story and keep replaying it for the public to see, and no matter what you saw he screwed up.

enough energy on this for me, windy and other things in life that need to come first. I hope it all works out.

Watch who you elect to represent you....i see no certs, or organizations making coments on this, only a kiter who made a mistake.....why dont they interview iko or pasa or you steve?

No good drama news in it!
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:54 PM
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Prayforwind i think you need to pray for more kitting and less stress, what a rage...interesting
:-) been praying for some wind and waves, but nothing yet. This post just brought out the evil in me. The dude is already hurt physically and emotionally and all you guys just making him feel even worse,with all the," you're making the sport look bad!" and other verbal bulll.Who lives along the Florida and Tampa Coast that doesn't go out when a storm is near, the summer brings 3 sometimes 4 week wind drought then all of the sudden there's a storm moving and then you see 20 plus knots and 10-15 plus foot swells forecasted after your feet being dry for so long who wouldn't take that risk,who?
Kiteboarding Tampa bay said it right the dude is no different from anyone of us. All kite boarders are guilty one way or the other when it comes to the lack of safety while riding It doesn't take a storm for shit to go bad with kiteboarding so why bash the guy. Another poster said no body is attacking Kevin how in the hell you could read some of these post and not take them as an attack. Instead of bashing the guy we suppose to be showing him our support because ANYONE!! of us could go out make a mistake a freak accident happens and get hurt. The old folks here had a saying while i was growing up, "if you don't have anything positive to say, shout the **** up!"
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:52 AM
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Here are my thoughts,

If they are gonna do the story everything before your interview is gonna make the sport look super dangerous. I do appreciate that you are trying to make the best of accident and use it to promote safety. However, I think the interview should be done by someone else who they can not put on the spot about the accident itself. I would suggest finding if someone else can take the interview about the sport and safety (Maybe if Rick would be willing to do it?). If not Rick I than someone with similar credentials.

I think if you could talk them into interviewing the right person it would be better than no interview. That way it can be Bad and Good publicity instead of just Bad publicity.

As far as the raging, everyone relax I think what has needed to be said has been said and Kevin understands his mistakes, however at one pointed it needed to be said which it has, so lets look forward.

Let's enjoy the season and keep the accident in the back of are minds next hurricane season so no one makes the same mistakes.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:51 AM
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You guys are too hard on him, he said he was not thinking right on the first interview. I've seen it a number of times and he looks pretty out of it. I'm sure now that he is better he'll be fine. I think it would be better to have words coming from him taking back his previous statements.

I just hope he says something about how those conditions were unsafe and no one should kite in them.

Kiting is a safe sport if you are properly trained and kite in proper conditions. These are conditions where the wind is consistant.
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